Hate Groups. Scary People. Liberal hate, Christian hate, Islamic hate. I hate Christians, Muslims, Jews, Islam, anti Islam. Hatred is dangerous.

Hate Groups. Scary People.
Liberal hate, Christian hate, Islamic hate.
I hate Christians, Muslims, Jews, Islam, anti Islam.
Hatred is dangerous.

 

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Scary people I'm hanging out with?

It all started when a friend commented that I was hanging out with "some scary people".

My first response was the reasonable one. (You can see it here.) Yes, some of the people I've been talking with are pretty right wing (which is what I thought he really meant). But scary? My answer: no.

The scary people are the ones who threaten us with violence, who do violence, who want to take away (and sometimes are successful in taking away) freedom of speech and action.


I've had some further thoughts. On anger. Rage. Name-calling. Hate groups. Generalized hatred from liberal hate to Islamic hate to anti Islam hate to Christian hate. Stuff like that.

I was reading some stuff from a blog, BareNakedIslam (Sept 5, 2012). And came to:

21st Century scourge known as Islam. Yes, Islam.
Any honest Muslim will tell you there is no radical Islam. There is no moderate Islam. Islam is Islam…and Islam is inherently violent, misogynistic, racist, bigoted, supremacist, and not at all Godly.

(The red and the bolding are from the original.)


What's going on here? I know honest Muslims who are moderate and believe that their vision of Islam is the true Islam.


There's more. The lead article sounded very positive about someone delivering a "rant" (her word), an "extended tirade" (her words) against Obama.

What was the worst thing about Obama, by the way? He "loves gays." So "we hate him."

The extended rant sounded as nasty as the hate stuff one can get from ...

hate groups - Islamic hate, hate of the West, hatred of Christians, also liberal hate of anti Islam

And re putting down Obama for being fully in favor of gay rights, it doesn't make sense to me that anyone who is for freedom should be anti-gay.


Most of all ... how effective are rants - whether motivated by Islamic hate or anti Islam hate? Maybe they let off steam. More often, they get people angrier and angrier. What comes to mind is a mob. I think of hate groups, like the thugs who came out against an EDL (English Defence League) rally in England recently, throwing rocks and bricks. (The EDL did not get police protection. Maybe I could rant about that. Instead, I'm asking myself: how best to act? how best to get that to change?)

More on generalized anger. Sometimes, when I read articles where the tone isn't enraged - Robert Spencer's IslamWatch comes especially to mind - the tone of many of the comments is nasty. And I hear my friend's words in my head: You're hanging out with some scary people.

Yes, some of the rage is definitely a nasty brew.

By the way, just before I came to
21st Century scourge known as Islam. Yes, Islam ...
I was reading an article, in the same blog, where I agreed with most of the points - like the ridiculousness of making littering with bacon into a hate crime. Yes, in New York it's apparently become a hate crime to throw bacon somewhere Muslims will be coming for a meeting. One can have 5 cop cars show up in no time at all for a crime as horrific as that.

I just was put off by the leap from the craziness of making littering with bacon a hate crime to ... rage and generalized anger at Islam. I recoil from that as much as from Islamism.

I'm not saying there's no reason for anger. I read just a few entries from Pamela Geller's blog, AtlasShrugs. Severed heads, mutilated bodies, and rejoicing Taliban soldiers. Honor killings. And then there is a smiling imam talking about the coming supremacy of worldwide Islam. Words from Shakespeare come to mind: "One can smile, and smile, and still be a villain."

Quite a challenge, not to turn to blanket anger, group hate.

I think of Nelson Mandela - in prison for 27 years. Very intent on ending racism, ending apartheid. He did not turn to anger or hate - or (also tempting) despair. Year after year, he fought many small fights with strength of character and dignity - and won more and more of the small fights. Finally, he was released from prison to become president of South Africa. Released by his jailers.

A very effective person. Strong, assertive. Not a hater.

I remember reading his story and going ... I don't have his generosity of spirit and his calm strength. I know very well how hard it can be not to turn to anger. It isn't easy, dealing effectively with powerful destructive forces, with hate groups. It can be almost overwhelmingly tempting to go the route of anger, and to stay on that route.

I can't say, look at Mandela, follow his route to victory. We can't count on such a massive turnaround. Still, I think of living 27 years enraged. Or living 27 years as he did. I'd rather stay close to his route.

And with that, enough for now on anger, hate and scary people.

Elsa

September 12, 2012


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I hate Muslims, Jews, Islam, Christians,
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I hate Christians, Muslims, Jews, Islam, anti Islam.
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